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Alex PR: What i want to say further may give some pedants grounds for rumors as they always find some inner meaning
Alex PR: But I am used to communicating with smart people in our chat whom I can call a spade a spade. I have always made a bet on it, and we will do the same now
Alex PR: We are here because of the same reason. And this reason is not love for the website, Ukraine, or something else. Simply, each of us has something what
other need and it may be presented as a
chain money-services-money. We simply agree on a MUTUALLY beneficial exchange
Alex PR: I guess, we used an expression "Everything is for a customer" so often that some might have an impression of an "order placement desk"
similarity in the form of UInvest
Alex PR: No, telling the truth, we follow your advice, we tell the truth - it's the best landmark for us. But if someone advises to give out money
tomorrow for additional sympathy, they need to understand that we won't follow this advice.
Alex PR: Any developing company pursues its own interests combining them with the interests of its customers
Alex PR: Even lawyers, protecting our interests, first of all think about theirs, maybe only for doctors it's a bit different
Alex PR: So do we.
Alex PR: I am sure this message was clear and understandable.
Alex PR: Recently one of the most popular anonymous electronic money processors closed down
Alex PR: and it is no longer in business. Of course, we mean LR. We did not care whether its business was legal or not, but we do care of the
situation that turned out among out uinvestors after the close-down took place.
Alex PR: There might be some people who lost not only money, but faith, which is more important. Let's try to separate the truth from lies
Alex PR: give answers to some questions that are mostly asked by our uinvestors. One of the most common questions was if UInvest lost money in LR
Alex PR: No, it has not, as it is impossible in any payment system. It's impossible not only technically, but also from a legal perspective. Skeptics,
attention please! Here are the proofs
Alex PR: From the very beginning UInvest had a goal to create a market place that would enable to make deals between business owners and individuals
Alex PR: From the financial standpoint, it clearly means that Uinvest cannot be the owner neither of business shares nor of uinvestors' funds
Alex PR: Otherwise, Uinvest would not be a marketplace, but an intermediary, that will itself dive into an investment process and carry the risks
Alex PR: Do you remember there was a long debate among uinvestors on the topic if Uinvest had to have a license for its financial activities, naive hyipers
thought it was their ace card against us!
Alex PR: The only correct answer is NO
Alex PR: It does not
Alex PR: As the company is not involved in any processes that take place between business owners and uinvestors.
Alex PR: Therefore, UInvest has not grounds to accept funds on behalf of or in businesses' and uinvestors' interests.
Alex PR: That is why you will never see UInvest accounts that accumulate funds in any payment system
Alex PR: But we did have an opportunity to add funds to our uinvest accounts directly through LR, you would say
Alex PR: Yes, taking into consideration some special popularity of LR, we, with the help of one of our financial partners, could make it technically
possible for our uinvestors.
Alex PR: But the funds located there belong to a financial partner, not to UInvest
Alex PR: Why is everything so complicated and inconvenient? Short-sighted people would ask...
Alex PR: and add that you could open accounts in neteller, stp, etc... It would be so convenient to work ther
Alex PR: no doubts, it would be very convenient
Alex PR: but the thing is it would not be UInvest anymore, it would be something else, anything else [Smile]
Alex PR: By accepting somebody's money we take on somebody's responsibility as well as risk
Alex PR: And this is at the time when we are talking about millions of dollars per months, and the amount keeps increasing. Only professional players of a
financial market can try to take on such risks, e.g. banks, brokers, insurance compnies
Alex PR: that is why even if we decided to open accounts in some pseudo payment systems, and trusted them such amounts of money (it does not sound smart, does it?),
they would have to refuse working with us
Alex PR: otherwise, they would have violated law and met all its consequences.
Alex PR: So how does it all work? everything is pretty simple
Alex PR: we arranged financial partners, i.e. those marketplace players that take on the responsibility for financial transactions
Alex PR: that is why when any participant wants to add or withdraw funds, they cooperate with a financial intermediary who works with all those netellers, stps,
and so on..
Alex PR: When competing for a client among each other, they offer the marketplace participants the best conditions of service. We cannot tell them the percentage
and so on, it's up to them to decide, but we try to create conditions that would be maximum beneficial to everyone.
Alex PR: those of you who have stayed with us for a long while now, may remember that the rating requirement for a financial partner was about 10000
Alex PR: Now it is 3000.Did i say now? [Smile] I'd better say, it was, because as of now this requirement equals 0.
Alex PR: Zero means our WELCOME to all those who do not have a 3000 rating, and welcome them join us and become an FP, compete, and give reasonable fees for their
services.
Alex PR: It may sound a bit naive, but we have a portrait of an average investor, who truly experiences certain difficulties. Therefore, we hear his voice and try
to assist. So we think that this great news will be appreciated.
Alex PR: Let's get back to questions about UI.
Alex PR: Meanwhile, sorry for putting the Read-only mode, but I really want you to catch every detail, and make sure that nothing is missed in interruptions
Alex PR: But if UI is a marketplace and does not deal with investors' money, then why should not we transfer money to the business directly, without FPs' help?
Alex PR: The matter is in the legislation that no one to violate.
Alex PR: It's strictly controls the moment when money passes from one account to another and records such operations.
Alex PR: If investors transfer money to the business directly the business would face with certain problems, which are:
Alex PR: 1) a business will have to identify each investor who transferred money to the bank account of the company
Alex PR: otherwise the bank will block the company's account
Alex PR: as you see the verification of thousands of clients located in different parts of the world will become impossible for the majority of businesses.
Alex PR: 2) a business will have to provide the documents to the bank and other government institutions that will prove the grounds for investments
Alex PR: But as soon as the business physicallly cannot sign thousands of investment contracts with investors, notarize them, translate and so on, most likely
banks will refuse to add investments on the businesses/ accounts
Alex PR: 3) Legislation of certain countries prohibits business to attract investments without the governmental institutions' approval
Alex PR: One has to remember that governmental insitutions can refuse to give such an approval or they may oblige the business to provide the information about
ALL its investors
Alex PR: 4) The business has to register all investors and keep the list constantly updated,
Alex PR: when we say to "update the register", it means that identities of new investors that acquired the shares of previous investors, have to be verified
Alex PR: Taking into consideration a large number of share transactions of one company i just one day, or even hour, it becomes physically impossible to constantly
update such a register
Alex PR: And the last
Alex PR: 5) as soon as business will receive investments in parts, it will not be able to start its investment project up to the moment it gets all investments
required
Alex PR: If you are a businessman, would you like to have such problems?
Alex PR: Okay, than how FPs solve these problems, you would ask?
Alex PR: FPs participation does not solve all problems mentioned above, but it significantly simplifies financial processes, for example:
Alex PR: a) on their accounts FPs consolidate financial investments from a large number of investors, that in their turn simplifies the process
Alex PR: of formation a full investment fund and assist a one-time help to the business in the form of full amount
Alex PR: We think you will agree that to receive ten thousand of dollars at once is not the same as to receive 10 bucks a thousand of timess
Alex PR: 2) as soon as FPs in their majority are legal entities, it significantly simplifies the process of money transfer from FPs' accounts to the bank accounts of
partner companies
Alex PR: in their turn, these partner companies sign investment contract with the business, by this means becoming a factual investor
Alex PR: and benefiting all uinvestors. Moreover partner companies solve another important problem related to the case if business doesnt comply
with its obligations, each investor will act individually following their interests only
Alex PR: Meanwhile, partner companies consolidate investors' requirements by means of penalizing the companies property on behalf of the partner company
following all uinvestors' interests
Alex PR: 3) As soon as the business does not receive investments from uinvestors directly, it does not need to idntify thousands of uinvestors and maintain
complicated registers
Alex PR: Such registers are being automated with the help of tech. solutions of UI
Alex PR: As you see, the participation of FPs in the UI marketplace is more than understandable not only economically, but legally as well
Alex PR: What do we expect next?
Alex PR: Only great things.
Alex PR: A thoroughly thought business model of UI is firm and is risk-free
Alex PR: No matter what happens, you may stay calm, everything is in order.
Alex PR: So when you say that you are with UI, you say that you are in the safe place
Alex PR: It may sound harsh, but the situation with LR had a positive outcome as well.
Alex PR: It clearly proves our words that UI is doing great relies only on its own solutions and strategy.
Alex PR: Thank you)) The biggest topic ever.
Alex PR: is over
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Alex PR: about high rates. In the previous news you can see that the number of FPs increased
Alex PR: Special to zukies: FPs are not cheaters as this problem has been resolved [Smile]
Alex PR: Let me tell you something about UPay. If for every smile I get a dollar, i bet i will become a millionaire after I tell you this news
Alex PR: [Smile]
Alex PR: Tomorrow Upay will publish the agent's list
Alex PR: that is what you have been asking for a long time
Alex PR: Also, i have to apologize.
Alex PR: During the last MC there was a client who was actually a guest, and he told that he wanted to just withdraw money. He did not speak English well, as was just repeating one thing. In each MC we have a couple of trolls, but he was not the one, and he did not get a special attention and care on time
Alex PR: I do not know his name, but if he's here, i say that his voice was heard. Upay will encourage all of you to offer exchangers. This is what was requested by RMs, FPs, and investors. So this is what will allow you to withdraw money in the form you want
Alex PR: And we already got the first offer from Pakistan, offer - not a decision. It clearly states that UPay becomes well-known, it gets additional attention and offers from exchangers
Alex PR: I would like to we applied special attention to Pakistan, as this is region we got lots of complaints from. I am looking forward to your assistance, even with a language translation
Alex PR: if you are ready to assist, please let us know @ partnership@upay.net
Alex PR: thank you
INFO: Chatroom is writable now
Sumber: Terima kasih banyak kepada Agan Roscky
POIN PENTING MANAGEMENT CHAT 5 Juni 2013
1. syarat jadi FP kini hanya perlu rating 0. Untuk security deposit, kemungkinan masih tetap 1000 (belum ada info)
2. Kemungkinan terbesar tidak ada wd direct dari uinvest karena ada beberapa alasan legalitas Uinvest. Uinvest hanyalah platform penghubung antara investor dan business owner. tanpa menerima uang langsung dari investor maka uinvest tidak perlu legalitas macem2 dan tidak ada kemungkinan ditutup dengan alasan pencucian uang / alasan2 klasik lain.
3. Direct WD untuk agent upay & FP khusus (selected FP?) akan ada.
4. Besok akan diumumkan list agent upay. akhirnya kluar juga. adakah wakil pelopor dari indonesia?
5. No matter what happens, you may stay calm, everything is in order.
Sumber: Terima kasih banyak kepada RM Skyadmirer.
Alex PR: What i want to say further may give some pedants grounds for rumors as they always find some inner meaning
Alex PR: But I am used to communicating with smart people in our chat whom I can call a spade a spade. I have always made a bet on it, and we will do the same now
Alex PR: We are here because of the same reason. And this reason is not love for the website, Ukraine, or something else. Simply, each of us has something what
other need and it may be presented as a
chain money-services-money. We simply agree on a MUTUALLY beneficial exchange
Alex PR: I guess, we used an expression "Everything is for a customer" so often that some might have an impression of an "order placement desk"
similarity in the form of UInvest
Alex PR: No, telling the truth, we follow your advice, we tell the truth - it's the best landmark for us. But if someone advises to give out money
tomorrow for additional sympathy, they need to understand that we won't follow this advice.
Alex PR: Any developing company pursues its own interests combining them with the interests of its customers
Alex PR: Even lawyers, protecting our interests, first of all think about theirs, maybe only for doctors it's a bit different
Alex PR: So do we.
Alex PR: I am sure this message was clear and understandable.
Alex PR: Recently one of the most popular anonymous electronic money processors closed down
Alex PR: and it is no longer in business. Of course, we mean LR. We did not care whether its business was legal or not, but we do care of the
situation that turned out among out uinvestors after the close-down took place.
Alex PR: There might be some people who lost not only money, but faith, which is more important. Let's try to separate the truth from lies
Alex PR: give answers to some questions that are mostly asked by our uinvestors. One of the most common questions was if UInvest lost money in LR
Alex PR: No, it has not, as it is impossible in any payment system. It's impossible not only technically, but also from a legal perspective. Skeptics,
attention please! Here are the proofs
Alex PR: From the very beginning UInvest had a goal to create a market place that would enable to make deals between business owners and individuals
Alex PR: From the financial standpoint, it clearly means that Uinvest cannot be the owner neither of business shares nor of uinvestors' funds
Alex PR: Otherwise, Uinvest would not be a marketplace, but an intermediary, that will itself dive into an investment process and carry the risks
Alex PR: Do you remember there was a long debate among uinvestors on the topic if Uinvest had to have a license for its financial activities, naive hyipers
thought it was their ace card against us!
Alex PR: The only correct answer is NO
Alex PR: It does not
Alex PR: As the company is not involved in any processes that take place between business owners and uinvestors.
Alex PR: Therefore, UInvest has not grounds to accept funds on behalf of or in businesses' and uinvestors' interests.
Alex PR: That is why you will never see UInvest accounts that accumulate funds in any payment system
Alex PR: But we did have an opportunity to add funds to our uinvest accounts directly through LR, you would say
Alex PR: Yes, taking into consideration some special popularity of LR, we, with the help of one of our financial partners, could make it technically
possible for our uinvestors.
Alex PR: But the funds located there belong to a financial partner, not to UInvest
Alex PR: Why is everything so complicated and inconvenient? Short-sighted people would ask...
Alex PR: and add that you could open accounts in neteller, stp, etc... It would be so convenient to work ther
Alex PR: no doubts, it would be very convenient
Alex PR: but the thing is it would not be UInvest anymore, it would be something else, anything else [Smile]
Alex PR: By accepting somebody's money we take on somebody's responsibility as well as risk
Alex PR: And this is at the time when we are talking about millions of dollars per months, and the amount keeps increasing. Only professional players of a
financial market can try to take on such risks, e.g. banks, brokers, insurance compnies
Alex PR: that is why even if we decided to open accounts in some pseudo payment systems, and trusted them such amounts of money (it does not sound smart, does it?),
they would have to refuse working with us
Alex PR: otherwise, they would have violated law and met all its consequences.
Alex PR: So how does it all work? everything is pretty simple
Alex PR: we arranged financial partners, i.e. those marketplace players that take on the responsibility for financial transactions
Alex PR: that is why when any participant wants to add or withdraw funds, they cooperate with a financial intermediary who works with all those netellers, stps,
and so on..
Alex PR: When competing for a client among each other, they offer the marketplace participants the best conditions of service. We cannot tell them the percentage
and so on, it's up to them to decide, but we try to create conditions that would be maximum beneficial to everyone.
Alex PR: those of you who have stayed with us for a long while now, may remember that the rating requirement for a financial partner was about 10000
Alex PR: Now it is 3000.Did i say now? [Smile] I'd better say, it was, because as of now this requirement equals 0.
Alex PR: Zero means our WELCOME to all those who do not have a 3000 rating, and welcome them join us and become an FP, compete, and give reasonable fees for their
services.
Alex PR: It may sound a bit naive, but we have a portrait of an average investor, who truly experiences certain difficulties. Therefore, we hear his voice and try
to assist. So we think that this great news will be appreciated.
Alex PR: Let's get back to questions about UI.
Alex PR: Meanwhile, sorry for putting the Read-only mode, but I really want you to catch every detail, and make sure that nothing is missed in interruptions
Alex PR: But if UI is a marketplace and does not deal with investors' money, then why should not we transfer money to the business directly, without FPs' help?
Alex PR: The matter is in the legislation that no one to violate.
Alex PR: It's strictly controls the moment when money passes from one account to another and records such operations.
Alex PR: If investors transfer money to the business directly the business would face with certain problems, which are:
Alex PR: 1) a business will have to identify each investor who transferred money to the bank account of the company
Alex PR: otherwise the bank will block the company's account
Alex PR: as you see the verification of thousands of clients located in different parts of the world will become impossible for the majority of businesses.
Alex PR: 2) a business will have to provide the documents to the bank and other government institutions that will prove the grounds for investments
Alex PR: But as soon as the business physicallly cannot sign thousands of investment contracts with investors, notarize them, translate and so on, most likely
banks will refuse to add investments on the businesses/ accounts
Alex PR: 3) Legislation of certain countries prohibits business to attract investments without the governmental institutions' approval
Alex PR: One has to remember that governmental insitutions can refuse to give such an approval or they may oblige the business to provide the information about
ALL its investors
Alex PR: 4) The business has to register all investors and keep the list constantly updated,
Alex PR: when we say to "update the register", it means that identities of new investors that acquired the shares of previous investors, have to be verified
Alex PR: Taking into consideration a large number of share transactions of one company i just one day, or even hour, it becomes physically impossible to constantly
update such a register
Alex PR: And the last
Alex PR: 5) as soon as business will receive investments in parts, it will not be able to start its investment project up to the moment it gets all investments
required
Alex PR: If you are a businessman, would you like to have such problems?
Alex PR: Okay, than how FPs solve these problems, you would ask?
Alex PR: FPs participation does not solve all problems mentioned above, but it significantly simplifies financial processes, for example:
Alex PR: a) on their accounts FPs consolidate financial investments from a large number of investors, that in their turn simplifies the process
Alex PR: of formation a full investment fund and assist a one-time help to the business in the form of full amount
Alex PR: We think you will agree that to receive ten thousand of dollars at once is not the same as to receive 10 bucks a thousand of timess
Alex PR: 2) as soon as FPs in their majority are legal entities, it significantly simplifies the process of money transfer from FPs' accounts to the bank accounts of
partner companies
Alex PR: in their turn, these partner companies sign investment contract with the business, by this means becoming a factual investor
Alex PR: and benefiting all uinvestors. Moreover partner companies solve another important problem related to the case if business doesnt comply
with its obligations, each investor will act individually following their interests only
Alex PR: Meanwhile, partner companies consolidate investors' requirements by means of penalizing the companies property on behalf of the partner company
following all uinvestors' interests
Alex PR: 3) As soon as the business does not receive investments from uinvestors directly, it does not need to idntify thousands of uinvestors and maintain
complicated registers
Alex PR: Such registers are being automated with the help of tech. solutions of UI
Alex PR: As you see, the participation of FPs in the UI marketplace is more than understandable not only economically, but legally as well
Alex PR: What do we expect next?
Alex PR: Only great things.
Alex PR: A thoroughly thought business model of UI is firm and is risk-free
Alex PR: No matter what happens, you may stay calm, everything is in order.
Alex PR: So when you say that you are with UI, you say that you are in the safe place
Alex PR: It may sound harsh, but the situation with LR had a positive outcome as well.
Alex PR: It clearly proves our words that UI is doing great relies only on its own solutions and strategy.
Alex PR: Thank you)) The biggest topic ever.
Alex PR: is over
INFO: Chatroom is writable now
INFO: Chatroom is readonly now
Alex PR: about high rates. In the previous news you can see that the number of FPs increased
Alex PR: Special to zukies: FPs are not cheaters as this problem has been resolved [Smile]
Alex PR: Let me tell you something about UPay. If for every smile I get a dollar, i bet i will become a millionaire after I tell you this news
Alex PR: [Smile]
Alex PR: Tomorrow Upay will publish the agent's list
Alex PR: that is what you have been asking for a long time
Alex PR: Also, i have to apologize.
Alex PR: During the last MC there was a client who was actually a guest, and he told that he wanted to just withdraw money. He did not speak English well, as was just repeating one thing. In each MC we have a couple of trolls, but he was not the one, and he did not get a special attention and care on time
Alex PR: I do not know his name, but if he's here, i say that his voice was heard. Upay will encourage all of you to offer exchangers. This is what was requested by RMs, FPs, and investors. So this is what will allow you to withdraw money in the form you want
Alex PR: And we already got the first offer from Pakistan, offer - not a decision. It clearly states that UPay becomes well-known, it gets additional attention and offers from exchangers
Alex PR: I would like to we applied special attention to Pakistan, as this is region we got lots of complaints from. I am looking forward to your assistance, even with a language translation
Alex PR: if you are ready to assist, please let us know @ partnership@upay.net
Alex PR: thank you
INFO: Chatroom is writable now
Sumber: Terima kasih banyak kepada Agan Roscky
POIN PENTING MANAGEMENT CHAT 5 Juni 2013
1. syarat jadi FP kini hanya perlu rating 0. Untuk security deposit, kemungkinan masih tetap 1000 (belum ada info)
2. Kemungkinan terbesar tidak ada wd direct dari uinvest karena ada beberapa alasan legalitas Uinvest. Uinvest hanyalah platform penghubung antara investor dan business owner. tanpa menerima uang langsung dari investor maka uinvest tidak perlu legalitas macem2 dan tidak ada kemungkinan ditutup dengan alasan pencucian uang / alasan2 klasik lain.
3. Direct WD untuk agent upay & FP khusus (selected FP?) akan ada.
4. Besok akan diumumkan list agent upay. akhirnya kluar juga. adakah wakil pelopor dari indonesia?
5. No matter what happens, you may stay calm, everything is in order.
Sumber: Terima kasih banyak kepada RM Skyadmirer.
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Judul: Management Chat Uinvest 5 Juni 2013
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Ditulis Oleh Uinvest Agent 11.10
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